I am very unlikely to live for another 10 years. That is a real shame as I would dearly like to see these changes taking place. Possibly my wife will see them, I hope she is not too upset by them.
Thanks for posting
George
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
I am very unlikely to live for another 10 years. That is a real shame as I would dearly like to see these changes taking place. Possibly my wife will see them, I hope she is not too upset by them.
Thanks for posting
George
i know they're panicking and trying to gain favor with governments, former members, prospective converts & those who are teetering, all for financial worries.
still, the latest update in some ways made things worse, and if there's any jws watching it who are beginning to wake up it should be very disturbing.. starting with dress codes: they say that suits, ties & skirts are no longer required, but in so doing they admit that they were required, something not often appearing as an explicit command in print.
(similar to how lett referred to the "policy on beards" in his video, even though this direct policy wasn't made available to rank and file.
Howzabout a spare tie and jacket and a velcro looong wrap skirt in the back room. Just in case.
I remember when a few congregations in my area had spare WHITE SHIRTS ready in case a visiting speaker turned up with a non-approved coloured shirt. I would have told them what to do with their second hand shirt!
George
i know they're panicking and trying to gain favor with governments, former members, prospective converts & those who are teetering, all for financial worries.
still, the latest update in some ways made things worse, and if there's any jws watching it who are beginning to wake up it should be very disturbing.. starting with dress codes: they say that suits, ties & skirts are no longer required, but in so doing they admit that they were required, something not often appearing as an explicit command in print.
(similar to how lett referred to the "policy on beards" in his video, even though this direct policy wasn't made available to rank and file.
I don’t think “slacks” is a word in the UK.
The GB forget there is a world outside of the US. As SBF said we don't use "slacks", we use the the word "trousers" here, both for men and women. As for "pants", I am currently wearing some very racy ones my wife bought me recently, but UNDER my trousers I hasten to add!
George
we still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
I was born in the 1940's. I wasn't going to school in this old system ...... etc etc.
Well I did go to school, collected my commemorative cup and saucer at school after Princess Elizabeth was crowned Queen Elizabeth. I saw her funeral and the coronation of Charles. Nothing has happened in JW land of significance.
An elder once told me the WT Society had never said anything about 1975. I asked him when he was born, it was in the 1980's. I told him if he wasn't a JW of an age to understand in the 1960's he didn't know what he was talking about.
George
hi, i was df'd in jan 09. have not been in touch much with the jws apart from a few memorials i went to.. what with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion.
i have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical bibles or books at all, makes me think how ai (or the borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or wt article.
doctrinally has much changed since 2009?.
Nothing of any interest or significance has happened in that time unless you are a fully committed JW. You are well away from it KK. After 15 years of freedom I wouldn't give the religion a second thought.
George
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/watchtower-will-take-norwegian-defeat-to-echr.
few norwegian religious communities need to worry after the jehovah's witnesses verdict, according to legal expert vibeke blaker strand.
he has pointed out that it is particularly serious to deprive a religious community of its registration.
The JWBORG website says this in its news page:
Norwegian Court Grants Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Request to Suspend Deregistration (jw.org)
I doubt the court's ruling on Monday will be appearing on their website anytime soon.
George
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/watchtower-will-take-norwegian-defeat-to-echr.
few norwegian religious communities need to worry after the jehovah's witnesses verdict, according to legal expert vibeke blaker strand.
he has pointed out that it is particularly serious to deprive a religious community of its registration.
This court decision seems particularly aimed at protecting children that can and are disfellowshipped or shunned. The WT may of course decide in future to only disfellowship adults, i.e. over 18's. This may be enough to appease the Norway courts and still allow them to carry on basically as "normal".
George
mark jones writes:.
how will history treat joseph rutherford?.
like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.
WHO?
The JW's in my congregation wouldn't be able to name any of the more familiar presidents, Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz or Henschel if you were to put them in a line up. They don't know any of the WT history nor are they interested in it.
George
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
22 February 2024 today, a year on.
Maybe we should remember him each year, TOMO's Day.
George
an interesting video was on youtube with a person claiming that the memorial date for 2024 was wrong.
so i consulted three different jewish calendars online and sure enough, he appears to be right.
i went back to 2014 and forward to 2027. they have the future dates listed.
Remember all the fuss about the Memorial in 2014? It COULD be the last one etc...
Well they got that wrong as well:-
The moon circles our earth each month. In the course of each cycle, there is a moment when the moon lines up between the earth and the sun. This astronomical configuration is termed “new moon.” At that point, the moon is not visible from the earth nor will it be until 18 to 30 hours later.
During 2014, the new moon nearest the vernal (spring) equinox will be on March 30, at 8:45 p.m. (20:45), Jerusalem time. The following sunset in Jerusalem (March 31) will come about 21 hours later. It is doubtful that the first sliver of the moon will be visible then. More likely, the first sunset when the initial crescent of the moon can be seen in Jerusalem will be on April 1. By the method the ancient Jews used, that will be the day when the first month (Nisan 1) will start, at sunset.
Hence, congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses around the earth have been informed that Nisan 14 will begin at sunset on Monday, April 14, 2014. That will be about the time of the full moon.—For more details on calculating the date, see The Watchtower of June 15, 1977, pages 383-384.
In fact the first sliver of the new moon was clearly visible in Jerusalem on 31 March 2014 despite the GB saying otherwise. So they were a day out again.
Incidentally, as pointed out in the 1977 WT the Full Moon has nothing to do with the calculation whatever. It is 14 days from the time the sliver of the new moon is seen in Jerusalem. If you check the dates of past Memorials and the date of the full moon that month, more often than not the memorial is held when the Full Moon is a day or two different.
George